Virginia Apuzzo: I grew up with that. Jerry Hoose:Gay people who had good jobs, who had everything in life to lose, were starting to join in. This was a highly unusual raid, going in there in the middle of the night with a full crowd, the Mafia hasn't been alerted, the Sixth Precinct hasn't been alerted. Gay people were not powerful enough politically to prevent the clampdown and so you had a series of escalating skirmishes in 1969. Fred Sargeant All the rules were off in the '60s. Katrina Heilbroner Homo, homo was big. Creating the First Visual History of Queer Life Before Stonewall Making a landmark documentary about LGBTQ Americans before 1969 meant digging through countless archives to find traces of. Revealing and. I told the person at the door, I said "I'm 18 tonight" and he said to me, "you little SOB," he said. For those kisses. In a spontaneous show of support and frustration, the citys gay community rioted for three nights in the streets, an event that is considered the birth of the modern Gay Rights Movement. Richard Enman (Archival):Ye - well, that's yes and no. So gay people were being strangled, shot, thrown in the river, blackmailed, fired from jobs. But the . We'll put new liquor in there, we'll put a new mirror up, we'll get a new jukebox." We'd say, "Here comes Lillian.". Geordie, Liam and Theo Gude Evan Eames Jimmy hadn't enjoyed himself so much in a long time. To commemorate the 20th anniversary of the Stonewall riots in New York City, activists rode their motorcycles during the city's 1989 gay-pride parade. Tommy Lanigan-Schmidt:There were all these articles in likeLife Magazineabout how the Village was liberal and people that were called homosexuals went there. And all of a sudden, pandemonium broke loose. I mean, I came out in Central Park and other places. How do you think that would affect him mentally, for the rest of their lives if they saw an act like that being? Dick Leitsch:And that's when you started seeing like, bodies laying on the sidewalk, people bleeding from the head. Before Stonewall (1984) - full transcript New York City's Stonewall Inn is regarded by many as the site of gay and lesbian liberation since it was at this bar that drag queens fought back against police June 27-28, 1969. Charles Harris, Transcriptions Jerry Hoose:I was chased down the street with billy clubs. Then the cops come up and make use of what used to be called the bubble-gum machine, back then a cop car only had one light on the top that spun around. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Gay people were told we didn't have any of that. Martin Boyce:There were these two black, like, banjee guys, and they were saying, "What's goin' on man?" Fred Sargeant:The effect of the Stonewall riot was to change the direction of the gay movement. Dick Leitsch:And I remember it being a clear evening with a big black sky and the biggest white moon I ever saw. In 1969 the police raided the Stonewall Inn, a gay bar in New York City's Greenwich Village, leading to three nights of rioting by the city's LGBT community. Jerry Hoose:I remember I was in a paddy wagon one time on the way to jail, we were all locked up together on a chain in the paddy wagon and the paddy wagon stopped for a red light or something and one of the queens said "Oh, this is my stop." That night, the police ran from us, the lowliest of the low. Quentin Heilbroner Danny Garvin:We became a people. And, it was, I knew I would go through hell, I would go through fire for that experience. Danny Garvin:He's a faggot, he's a sissy, queer. Daily News And the cops got that. Martin Boyce:I had cousins, ten years older than me, and they had a car sometimes. Things were being thrown against the plywood, we piled things up to try to buttress it. The overwhelming number of medical authorities said that homosexuality was a mental defect, maybe even a form of psychopathy. We knew it was a gay bar, we walked past it. What finally made sense to me was the first time I kissed a woman and I thought, "Oh, this is what it's about." Eric Marcus, Writer:It was incredibly hot. You see these cops, like six or eight cops in drag. Jay Fialkov Narrator (Archival):This is one of the county's principal weekend gathering places for homosexuals, both male and female. They would bang on the trucks. WPA Film Library, Thanks to I was never seduced by an older person or anything like that. All of this stuff was just erupting like a -- as far as they were considered, like a gigantic boil on the butt of America. Before Stonewall - Trailer BuskFilms 12.6K subscribers Subscribe 14K views 10 years ago Watch the full film here (UK & IRE only): http://buskfilms.com/films/before-sto. But it was a refuge, it was a temporary refuge from the street. John O'Brien:Heterosexuals, legally, had lots of sexual outlets. John O'Brien:And deep down I believed because I was gay and couldn't speak out for my rights, was probably one of the reasons that I was so active in the Civil Rights Movement. For the first time, we weren't letting ourselves be carted off to jails, gay people were actually fighting back just the way people in the peace movement fought back. Somebody grabbed me by the leg and told me I wasn't going anywhere. America thought we were these homosexual monsters and we were so innocent, and oddly enough, we were so American. He said, "Okay, let's go." And then as you turned into the other room with the jukebox, those were the drag queens around the jukebox. Jorge Garcia-Spitz Lauren Noyes. Because if you don't have extremes, you don't get any moderation. It eats you up inside not being comfortable with yourself. More than a half-century after its release, " The Queen " serves as a powerful time capsule of queer life as it existed before the 1969 Stonewall uprising. And they were gay. The events. This was the first time I could actually sense, not only see them fearful, I could sense them fearful. Mike Nuget Virginia Apuzzo:What we felt in isolation was a growing sense of outrage and fury particularly because we looked around and saw so many avenues of rebellion. Every arrest and prosecution is a step in the education of the public to the solution of the problem. Franco Sacchi, Additional Animation and Effects Tommy Lanigan-Schmidt And the Stonewall was part of that system. A medievalist. David Carter Newly restored for the 50th Anniversary of the Stonewall Riots, Before Stonewall pries open the . David Huggins I really thought that, you know, we did it. Martha Shelley:When I was growing up in the '50s, I was supposed to get married to some guy, produce, you know, the usual 2.3 children, and I could look at a guy and say, "Well, objectively he's good looking," but I didn't feel anything, just didn't make any sense to me. You were alone. Judith Kuchar We were scared. The New York Times / Redux Pictures You cut one head off. They would not always just arrest, they would many times use clubs and beat. But that's only partially true. For the first time the next person stood up. Howard Smith, Reporter,The Village Voice:And I keep listening and listening and listening, hoping I'm gonna hear sirens any minute and I was very freaked. Few photographs of the raid and the riots that followed exist. John O'Brien:I was with a group that we actually took a parking meter out of theground, three or four people, and we used it as a battering ram. Never, never, never. Martin Boyce:Mind you socks didn't count, so it was underwear, and undershirt, now the next thing was going to ruin the outfit. There was no going back now, there was no going back, there was no, we had discovered a power that we weren't even aware that we had. NBC News Archives Historic Films John O'Brien:Our goal was to hurt those police. If that didn't work, they would do things like aversive conditioning, you know, show you pornography and then give you an electric shock. Cause we could feel a sense of love for each other that we couldn't show out on the street, because you couldn't show any affection out on the street. There may be some girls here who will turn lesbian. Windows started to break. Ed Koch, Councilman, New York City:The Stonewall, they didn't have a liquor license and they were raided by the cops regularly and there were pay-offs to the cops, it was awful. Martha Shelley:The riot could have been buried, it could have been a few days in the local newspaper and that was that. They were to us. Once it started, once that genie was out of the bottle, it was never going to go back in. At least if you had press, maybe your head wouldn't get busted. It was as if they were identifying a thing. Beginning of our night out started early. The events of that night have been described as the birth of the gay-rights movement. Doric Wilson:Somebody that I knew that was older than me, his family had him sent off where they go up and damage the frontal part of the brain. He pulls all his men inside. Like, "Joe, if you fire your gun without me saying your name and the words 'fire,' you will be walking a beat on Staten Island all alone on a lonely beach for the rest of your police career. The Stonewall riots, as they came to be known, marked a major turning point in the modern gay civil rights movement in the United States and around the world. It is usually after the day at the beach that the real crime occurs. Tommy Lanigan-Schmidt:Those of us that were the street kids we didn't think much about the past or the future. You gotta remember, the Stonewall bar was just down the street from there. And once that happened, the whole house of cards that was the system of oppression of gay people started to crumble. William Eskridge, Professor of Law:In states like New York, there were a whole basket of crimes that gay people could be charged with. That was scary, very scary. It must have been terrifying for them. It won the Best Film Award at the Houston International Film Festival, Best Documentary Feature at Filmex, First Place at the National Educational Film Festival, and Honorable Mention at the Global Village Documentary Festival. We were thinking about survival. Remember everything. Howard Smith, Reporter,The Village Voice:That night I'm in my office, I looked down the street, and I could see the Stonewall sign and I started to see some activity in front. Before Stonewall 1984 Unrated 1 h 27 m IMDb RATING 7.5 /10 1.1K YOUR RATING Rate Play trailer 2:21 1 Video 7 Photos Documentary History The history of the Gay and Lesbian community before the Stonewall riots began the major gay rights movement. I guess they're deviates. The medical experimentation in Atascadero included administering, to gay people, a drug that simulated the experience of drowning; in other words, a pharmacological example of waterboarding. Because he was homosexual. So in every gay pride parade every year, Stonewall lives. We assembled on Christopher Street at 6th Avenue, to march. Danny Garvin:With Waverly Street coming in there, West Fourth coming in there, Seventh Avenue coming in there, Christopher Street coming in there, there was no way to contain us. Leaflets in the 60s were like the internet, today. From left: "Before Stonewall" director Greta Schiller, executive producer John Scagliotti and co-director Robert Rosenberg in 1985. In an effort to avoid being anachronistic . The scenes were photographed with telescopic lenses. William Eskridge, Professor of Law:At the peak, as many as 500 people per year were arrested for the crime against nature, and between 3- and 5,000 people per year arrested for various solicitation or loitering crimes. Dr. Socarides (Archival):Homosexuality is in fact a mental illness which has reached epidemiological proportions. Slate:Activity Group Therapy (1950), Columbia University Educational Films. Dick Leitsch:So it was mostly goofing really, basically goofing on them. Narrator (Archival):Note how Albert delicately pats his hair, and adjusts his collar. Liz Davis They pushed everybody like to the back room and slowly asking for IDs. Somehow being gay was the most terrible thing you could possibly be. Tom Caruso Lucian Truscott, IV, Reporter,The Village Voice:They started busting cans of tear gas. We had no speakers planned for the rally in Central Park, where we had hoped to get to. Jimmy knew he shouldn't be interested but, well, he was curious. The shop had been threatened, we would get hang-up calls, calls where people would curse at us on the phone, we'd had vandalism, windows broken, streams of profanity. J. Michael Grey Clever. I was a homosexual. Long before marriage equality, non-binary gender identity, and the flood of new documentaries commemorating this month's 50th anniversary of the Greenwich Village uprising that begat the gay rights movement, there was Greta Schiller's Before Stonewall.Originally released in 1984as AIDS was slowly killing off many of those bar patrons-turned-revolutionariesthe film, through the use of . Doric Wilson:That's what happened Stonewall night to a lot of people. It was a way to vent my anger at being repressed. He may appear normal, and it may be too late when you discover he is mentally ill. John O'Brien:I was a poor, young gay person. Seymour Pine, Deputy Inspector, Morals Division, NYPD:Our radio was cut off every time we got on the police radio. Howard Smith, Reporter,The Village Voice:But there were little, tiny pin holes in the plywood windows, I'll call them the windows but they were plywood, and we could look out from there and every time I went over and looked out through one of those pin holes where he did, we were shocked at how big the crowd had become. Former U.S. President Barack Obama shakes hands with gay rights activist Frank Kameny after signing a memorandum on federal benefits and non-discrimination in the Oval Office on June 17, 2009. We had been threatened bomb threats. You had no place to try to find an identity. Suzanne Poli It was one of the things you did in New York, it was like the Barnum and Bailey aspect of it. And I raised my hand at one point and said, "Let's have a protest march." There was all these drags queens and these crazy people and everybody was carrying on. I didn't think I could have been any prettier than that night. BBC Worldwide Americas Stacker put together a timeline of LGBTQ+ history leading up to Stonewall, beginning with prehistoric events and ending in the late 1960s. Slate:The Homosexuals(1967), CBS Reports. And so there was this drag queen standing on the corner, so they go up and make a sexual offer and they'd get busted. The events that took place in June 1969 have been described as the birth of the gay-rights movement, but that's only partially true. Lucian Truscott, IV, Reporter,The Village Voice:A rather tough lesbian was busted in the bar and when she came out of the bar she was fighting the cops and trying to get away. In 1969 it was common for police officers to rough up a gay bar and ask for payoffs. And I hadn't had enough sleep, so I was in a somewhat feverish state, and I thought, "We have to do something, we have to do something," and I thought, "We have to have a protest march of our own." Linton Media Many of those activists have since died, but Marcus preserved their voices for his book, titled Making Gay History. Martin Boyce:I wasn't labeled gay, just "different." And then there were all these priests ranting in church about certain places not to go, so you kind of knew where you could go by what you were told not to do. I learned, very early, that those horrible words were about me, that I was one of those people. This produced an enormous amount of anger within the lesbian and gay community in New York City and in other parts of America. Doric Wilson:There was joy because the cops weren't winning. I never saw so many gay people dancing in my life. Danny Garvin:People were screaming "pig," "copper." Barak Goodman Danny Garvin:Bam, bam and bash and then an opening and then whoa. John O'Brien:All of a sudden, the police faced something they had never seen before. The most infamous of those institutions was Atascadero, in California. But it's serious, don't kid yourselves about it. People could take shots at us. They could be judges, lawyers. And there, we weren't allowed to be alone, the police would raid us still. Tommy Lanigan-Schmidt:So you're outside, and you see like two people walking toward these trucks and you think, "Oh I think I'll go in there," you go in there, there's like a lot of people in there and it's all dark. And when she grabbed that everybody knew she couldn't do it alone so all the other queens, Congo Woman, queens like that started and they were hitting that door. A sickness that was not visible like smallpox, but no less dangerous and contagious. Today, that event is seen as the start of the gay civil rights movement, but gay activists and organizations were standing up to harassment and discrimination years before. John O'Brien:The election was in November of 1969 and this was the summer of 1969, this was June. People cheer while standing in front of The Stonewall Inn as the annual Gay Pride parade passes, Sunday, June 26, 2011 in New York. (c) 2011 Scott McPartland/Getty Images Howard Smith, Reporter,The Village Voice:I had been in some gay bars either for a story or gay friends would say, "Oh we're going to go in for a drink there, come on in, are you too uptight to go in?" The groundbreaking 1984 film "Before Stonewall" introduced audiences to some of the key players and places that helped spark the Greenwich Village riots. The award-winning documentary film, Before Stonewall, which was released theatrically and broadcast on PBS television in 1984, explored the history of the lesbian and gay rights movement in the United States prior to 1969. Oddball Film + Video, San Francisco And we all relaxed. Tweet at us @throughlineNPR, send us an email, or leave us a voicemail at (872) 588-8805. There were occasions where you did see people get night-sticked, or disappear into a group of police and, you know, everybody knew that was not going to have a good end. Synopsis. Mike Wallace (Archival):Dr. Charles Socarides is a New York psychoanalyst at the Albert Einstein School of Medicine. "We're not going.". There may be some here today that will be homosexual in the future. Martha Shelley And I ran into Howard Smith on the street,The Village Voicewas right there. Narrator (Archival):We arrested homosexuals who committed their lewd acts in public places. John O'Brien:Cops got hurt. Slate:In 1969, homosexual acts were illegal in every state except Illinois. Danny Garvin:We were talking about the revolution happening and we were walking up 7th Avenue and I was thinking it was either Black Panthers or the Young Lords were going to start it and we turned the corner from 7th Avenue onto Christopher Street and we saw the paddy wagon pull up there. Lynn and Louis Wolfson II Florida Moving Image Archives Martin Boyce:That was our only block. We ought to know, we've arrested all of them. Jeremiah Hawkins Ellinor Mitchell The Underground Lounge They frequent their own clubs, and bars and coffee houses, where they can escape the disapproving eye of the society that they call straight. "Don't fire. TV Host (Archival):Ladies and gentlemen, the reason for using first names only forthese very, very charming contestants is that right now each one of them is breaking the law. Seymour Wishman Also, through this fight, the "LGBT" was born. kui In the sexual area, in psychology, psychiatry. All rights reserved. American Airlines And I knew that I was lesbian. "Daybreak Express" by D.A. But as we were going up 6th Avenue, it kept growing. They really were objecting to how they were being treated. In 1969 the police raided the Stonewall Inn, a gay bar in New York City's Greenwich Village, leading to three nights of rioting by the city's gay community. This documentary uses extensive archival film, movie clips . Raymond Castro:So then I got pushed back in, into the Stonewall by these plain clothes cops and they would not let me out, they didn't let anybody out. Dan Martino If anybody should find out I was gay and would tell my mother, who was in a wheelchair, it would have broken my heart and she would have thought she did something wrong. The term like "authority figures" wasn't used back then, there was just "Lily Law," "Patty Pig," "Betty Badge." Abstract. You know, we wanted to be part of the mainstream society. The film combined personal interviews, snapshots and home movies, together with historical footage. Other images in this film are Dick Leitsch:Mattachino in Italy were court jesters; the only people in the whole kingdom who could speak truth to the king because they did it with a smile. There were gay bars in Midtown, there were gay bars uptown, there were certain kinds of gay bars on the Upper East Side, you know really, really, really buttoned-up straight gay bars. If there had been a riot of that proportion in Harlem, my God, you know, there'd have been cameras everywhere. and I didn't see anything but a forest of hands. Danny Garvin:We had thought of women's rights, we had thought of black rights, all kinds of human rights, but we never thought of gay rights, and whenever we got kicked out of a bar before, we never came together. That's it. "You could have got us in a lot of trouble, you could have got us closed up." Don't fire until I fire. The only faces you will see are those of the arresting officers. John O'Brien:I knew that the words that were being said to put down people, was about me. Fred Sargeant:The press did refer to it in very pejorative terms, as a night that the drag queens fought back. One never knows when the homosexual is about. Fred Sargeant:The tactical patrol force on the second night came in even larger numbers, and were much more brutal. Daniel Pine Except for the few mob-owned bars that allowed some socializing, it was basically for verboten. That never happened before. It's not my cup of tea. Andy Frielingsdorf, Reenactment Actors Sign up for the American Experience newsletter! In the Life David Alpert Tommy Lanigan-Schmidt:The police would zero in on us because sometimes they would be in plain clothes, and sometimes they would even entrap. The lights came on, it's like stop dancing. And, you know,The Village Voiceat that point started using the word "gay.". The Chicago riots, the Human Be-in, the dope smoking, the hippies. I was in the Navy when I was 17 and it was there that I discovered that I was gay. And she was quite crazy. Seymour Pine, Deputy Inspector, Morals Division, NYPD:It was always hands up, what do you want? Eric Marcus, Recreation Still Photography Howard Smith, Reporter,The Village Voice:And by the time the police would come back towards Stonewall, that crowd had gone all the around Washington Place come all the way back around and were back pushing in on them from the other direction and the police would wonder, "These are the same people or different people?". Lucian Truscott, IV, Reporter,The Village Voice:The mob raised its hand and said "Oh, we'll volunteer," you know, "We'll set up some gay bars and serve over-priced, watered-down drinks to you guys." And a whole bunch of people who were in the paddy wagon ran out. Martha Shelley:Before Stonewall, the homophile movement was essentially the Mattachine Society and Daughters of Bilitis and all of these other little gay organizations, some of which were just two people and a mimeograph machine. So you couldn't have a license to practice law, you couldn't be a licensed doctor. There was at least one gay bar that was run just as a hustler bar for straight gay married men. A gay rights march in New York in favor of the 1968 Civil Rights Act being amended to include gay rights. And a couple of 'em had pulled out their guns. Is that conceivable? Other images in this film are either recreations or drawn from events of the time. William Eskridge, Professor of Law: The 1960s were dark ages for lesbians and gay men all over America. Lucian Truscott, IV, Reporter,The Village Voice:All of straight America, in terms of the middle class, was recoiling in horror from what was happening all around them at that time, in that summer and the summer before. Getting then in the car, rocking them back and forth. All kinds of designers, boxers, big museum people. Danny Garvin:And the cops just charged them. Narrator (Archival):This involves showing the gay man pictures of nude males and shocking him with a strong electric current. June 21, 2019 1:29 PM EDT. This, to a homosexual, is no choice at all. And there was like this tension in the air and it just like built and built. And we were singing: "We are the Village girls, we wear our hair in curls, we wear our dungarees, above our nellie knees." There are a lot of kids here. Narrator (Archival):Do you want your son enticed into the world of homosexuals, or your daughter lured into lesbianism? Before Stonewall, the activists wanted to fit into society and not rock the boat. Lucian Truscott, IV, Reporter,The Village Voice:Saturday night there it was. Geoff Kole To celebrate the 30th anniversary of the Teddy Awards, the film was shown at the 66th Berlin International Film Festival in February 2016. Lucian Truscott, IV, Reporter,The Village Voice:This was the Rosa Parks moment, the time that gay people stood up and said no. Frank Kameny, co-founder of the Mattachine Society, and Shirley Willer, president of the Daughters of Bilitis, spoke to Marcus about being gay before the Stonewall riots happened and what motivated people who were involved in the movement. John Scagliotti Stonewall: The Riots that Sparked the Gay Revolution Barbara Gittings and Kay Tobin Lahusen Gay History Papers and Photographs, Manuscripts and Archives Division, The New York Public Library, Astor, Lenox and Tilden Foundations And if we catch you, involved with a homosexual, your parents are going to know about it first. It's like, this is not right. Tommy Lanigan-Schmidt:What was so good about the Stonewall was that you could dance slow there. That this was normal stuff. I have pondered this as "Before Stonewall," my first feature documentary, is back in cinemas after 35 years. It's the first time I'm fully inside the Stonewall. Martin Boyce:In the early 60s, if you would go near Port Authority, there were tons of people coming in. As you read, keep in mind that LGBTQ+ is a relatively new term and, while queer people have always existed, the terminology has changed frequently over the years. Fred Sargeant:Things started off small, but there was an energy that began to flow through the crowd. And it's interesting to note how many youngsters we've been seeing in these films. She was awarded the first ever Emmy Award for Research for her groundbreaking work on Before Stonewall. Where did you buy it? Alan Lechner Jerry Hoose:And we were going fast. I first engaged in such acts when I was 14 years old. Pennebaker courtesy of Pennebaker Hegedus Films Colonial House Danny Garvin:It was the perfect time to be in the Village. The history of the Gay and Lesbian community before the Stonewall riots began the major gay rights movement. John O'Brien Lilli M. Vincenz I mean I'm talking like sardines. Hear more of the conversation and historical interviews at the audio link. The homosexual, bitterly aware of his rejection, responds by going underground. And there was tear gas on Saturday night, right in front of the Stonewall. Leroy S. Mobley Things were just changing. Seymour Pine, Deputy Inspector, Morals Division, NYPD:There were no instructions except: put them out of business. It was narrated by author Rita Mae Brown, directed by Greta Schiller, co-directed by Robert Rosenberg, and co-produced by John Scagliotti and Rosenberg, and Schiller. Producers Library Ellen Goosenberg This 19-year-old serviceman left his girlfriend on the beach to go to a men's room in a park nearby where he knew that he could find a homosexual contact. They raided the Checkerboard, which was a very popular gay bar, a week before the Stonewall. It was terrifying. Alfredo del Rio, Archival Still and Motion Images Courtesy of They'd think I'm a cop even though I had a big Jew-fro haircut and a big handlebar mustache at the time. We did use humor to cover pain, frustration, anger. Cause I was from the streets. The Laramie Project Cast at The Calhoun School Richard Enman (Archival):Present laws give the adult homosexual only the choice of being, to simplify the matter, heterosexual and legal or homosexual and illegal. Before Stonewall. Greg Shea, Legal They were supposed to be weak men, limp-wristed. But I gave it up about, oh I forget, some years ago, over four years ago. Milestones in the American Gay Rights Movement. Revealing and, by turns, humorous and horrifying, this widely acclaimed film relives the emotional and political spark of today's gay rights movement - the events that . And I had become very radicalized in that time. As president of the Mattachine Society in New York, I tried to negotiate with the police and the mayor. The cops were barricaded inside. ", Howard Smith, Reporter,The Village Voice:And he went to each man and said it by name. Just let's see if they can. And you will be caught, don't think you won't be caught, because this is one thing you cannot get away with. Yvonne Ritter:I did try to get out of the bar and I thought that there might be a way out through one of the bathrooms. But everybody knew it wasn't normal stuff and everyone was on edge and that was the worst part of it because you knew they were on edge and you knew that the first shot that was fired meant all the shots would be fired. Lucian Truscott, IV, Reporter,The Village Voice:What they did in the Stonewall that night. Activists had been working for change long before Stonewall. A word that would be used in the 1960s for gay men and lesbians. Ed Koch, Councilman, New York City:Yes, entrapment did exist, particularly in the subway system, in the bathrooms. And today we're talking about Stonewall, which were both pretty anxious about so anxious. Susana Fernandes Gay people were never supposed to be threats to police officers. Fred Sargeant:Someone at this point had apparently gone down to the cigar stand on the corner and got lighter fluid.
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