Another issue about Porteus and Aporteus : if we copy ISO via dd or other tools or copy ISO contents to EFI partition of USB work perfectly in UEFI. Win10_21H2_BrazilianPortuguese_x64.iso also boots fine in Legacy mode on IdeaPad 300 with Ventoy 1.0.57. Open Rufus and select the USB flash drive under "Device" and select Extended Windows 11 Installation under Image option. 4. The idea that Ventoy users "should know what they are getting into" or that "it's pointless to check UEFI bootloaders for Secure Boot" once Ventoy has been enrolled is disingenuous at best. backbox-7-desktop-amd64.iso - 2.47 GB, emmabuntus-de3-amd64-10.3-1.01.iso - 3.37 GB, pentoo-full-amd64-hardened-2019.2.iso - 4 GB While Ventoy is designed to boot in with secure boot enabled, if your computer does not support the secure boot feature, then an error will result. @steve6375 Okay thanks. Currently when boot the ISO file failed as a Virtual CDROM, Ventoy will try to parse the grub configuration file inside the ISO file and try to boot it direclty with. downloaded from: http://old-dos.ru/dl.php?id=15030. @steve6375 I've mounted that partition and deleted EFI folder but it's still recognized as EFI, both in Windows Disk Management and the BIOS, just doesn't boot anymore. Ventoy2Disk.exe always failed to update ? Not exactly. I guess this is a classic error 45, huh? My guess is it does not. Perform a scan to check if there are any existing errors on the USB. preloader-for-ventoy-prerelease-1.0.40.zip, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1401532, [issue]: Instead of dm-patch, consider a more secure and upstreamable solution that does not do kernel taint. These WinPE have different user scripts inside the ISO files. Reboot your computer and select ventoy-delete-key-1.-iso. I found that on modern systems (those not needing legacy boot) that using the GPT boot partition version (UEFI) only is a lot more reliable. Copyright Windows Report 2023. Insert a USB flash drive with at least 8 GB of storage capacity into your computer. Oh and obviously, once that is done, Ventoy will need to make sure that it's not possible to run an older versions of it, in a Secure Boot environment where a newer version has been enrolled, as it would still defeat the whole thing. It should be the default of Ventoy, which is the point of this issue. Preventing malicious programs is not the task of secure boot. fails to find system in /slax, 'Hello System' os can boot successfully with bootx64.efi's machine and show desktop. But, considering that I've been trying for the last 5 years to rally people against Microsoft's "no GPLv3 policy" without going anywhere, and that this is what ultimately forced me to rewrite/relicense UEFI:NTFS, I'm not optimistic about it. Option 2: bypass secure boot So, Ventoy can also adopt that driver and support secure boot officially. Aporteus which is Arch Linux based version of Porteus , is best , fastest and greatest distro i ever met , it's fully modular , supports bleeding edge techs like zstd , have a tool to very easily compile and use latest version of released or RC kernel directly from kernel.org ( Kernel Builder ) , have a tool to generate daily fresh ISO so all the packages are daily and fresh ( Aporteus ISO Builder ) , you can have multi desktops on a ISO and on boot select whatever you like , it has naturally Copy to RAM feature with flag to copy specific modules only so linux run at huge speed , a lot of tools and softwares along side mini size ISO , and it use very very low ram and ISO size, You can generate ISO with whatever language you like to distro have. Ventoy loads Linux kernels directly, which are also signed with embedded Shim certificate. Tested ISO: https://github.com/rescuezilla/rescuezilla/releases/download/2.4/rescuezilla-2.4-64bit.jammy.iso. error was now displayed in 1080p. Forum rules Before you post please read how to get help. When ventoy detects this file, it will not search the directory and all the subdirectories for iso files. Secure Boot is supported since Ventoy-1.0.07, please use the latest version and see the Notes. plist file using ProperTree. Asks for full pathname of shell. In this situation, with current Ventoy architecture, nothing will boot (even Fedora ISO), because the validation (and loading) files signed with Shim certificate requires support from the bootloader and every chainloaded .efi file (it uses custom protocol, regular EFI functions can't be used. Now that Ventoy is installed on your USB drive, you can create a bootable USB drive by simply copying some ISO files onto the USB, no matter if they are Linux distribution ISOs or Windows 10 / 8 / 7 ISO files. regular-cinnamon-latest-x86_64.iso - 1.1 GB, openSUSE-Tumbleweed-GNOME-Live-x86_64-Snapshot20200326-Media.iso - 852MB You signed in with another tab or window. Openbsd is based. 2There are two methods: Enroll Key and Enroll Hash, use whichever one. screenshots if possible Yet, that is technically what Ventoy does if you enrol it for Secure Boot, as it makes it look like any bootloader, that wasn't signed by Microsoft, was signed by Microsoft. However, I'm not sure whether chainloading of shims are allowed, and how it would work if you try to load for example Ubuntu when you already have Fedora's shim loaded. all give ERROR on my PC It typically has the same name, but you can rename it to something else should you choose to do so. @BxOxSxS Please test these ISO files in Virtual Machine (e.g. They can choose to run a signed Ubuntu EFI file and Ventoy can change it's default function using scripts and file injection. if this issue was addressed), it could probably be Secure Boot signed, in the same manner as UEFI:NTFS was itself Secure Boot signed. Remove Ventoy secure boot key. That doesn't mean that it cannot validate the booloaders that are being chainloaded. Hi, HDClone can be booted by Ventoy in Memdisk mode for legacy BIOS, you try Ventoy 1.0.08 beta2. When the user is away again, remove your TPM-exfiltration CPU and place the old one back. Ventoy does support Windows 10 and 11 and users can bypass the Windows 11 hardware check when installing. Menu. There are many other applications that can create bootable disks but Ventoy comes with its sets of features. Sorry, I meant to upgrade from the older version of Windows 11 to 22H2. We recommend downloading this PC Repair tool (rated Great on TrustPilot.com) to easily address them. Download non-free firmware archive. If you did the above as described, exactly, then you now have a good Ventoy install of latest version, but /dev/sdX1 will be type exFAT and we want to change that to ext4, so start gparted, find that partition (make sure it is unmounted via right click in gparted), format it to ext4 and make sure to . Will it boot fine? Just found that MEMZ.iso from https://mega.nz/folder/TI8ECBKY#i89YUsA0rCJp9kTClz3VlA works, file: Windows XP.ver.SP3.English access with key cards) making sure that your safe does get installed there, so that it should give you an extra chance to detect ill intentioned people trying to access its content. git clone git clone When you run into problem when booting an image file, please make sure that the file is not corrupted. The thing is, the Windows injection that Ventoy usse can be applied to an extracted ISO (i.e. Windows 10 32bit The user has Ubuntu, Fedora and OpenSUSE ISOs which they want to load. Open net installer iso using archive manager in Debian (pre-existing system). Yeah to clarify, my problem is a little different and i should've made that more clear. 2. . So, yeah, it's the same as a safe manufacturer, on seeing that you have a room with extra security (e.g. for the suggestions. ISO file name (full exact name) So all Ventoy's behavior doesn't change the secure boot policy. FreeBSD 13.1-RELEASE Aarch64 fails to boot saying "No bootfile found for UEFI!". 1: The Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool is not compatible with USB 3.0. The point of this issue is that people are under the impression that because Ventoy supports Secure Boot, they will get the same level of "security" booting Secure Boot compliant media through Ventoy as if they had booted that same media directly, which is indeed a fair expectation to have, since the whole point of boot media creation software is to have the converted media behave as close as possible as the original would. Worked fine for me on my Thinkpad T420. accomodate this. For example, Ventoy can be modified to somehow chainload full chain of distros shim grub kernel, or custom validation functions could be made, which would, for example, validate and accept files signed with certificates in DB + a set of custom certificates (like ones embedded in distros' Shims), or even validate and automatically extract Shims embedded certificates and override EFI validation functions (as it's done currently to completely disable validation), but is this kind of complexity worth it for a USB boot utility which is implemented to be simple and convenient? This option is enabled by default since 1.0.76. If the secure boot is enabled in the BIOS, the following screen should be displayed when boot Ventoy at thte first time. @MFlisar Hiren's Boot CD was down with UEFI (legacy still has some problem), manjaro-kde-20.0-rc3-200422-linux56.iso BOOT Currently, on x64 systems, Ventoy is able to run when Secure Boot is enabled, through the use of MokManager to enroll the certificate with which Ventoy's EFI executable is signed. The Flex image does not support BIOS\Legacy boot - only UEFI64. I assume that file-roller is not preserving boot parameters, use another iso creation tool. In the install program Ventoy2Disk.exe. https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/releases/tag/v1.0.33, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5NFuDCZQ00, http://tinycorelinux.net/13.x/x86_64/release/. If so, please include aflag to stop this check from happening! In Windows, some processes will occupy the USB drive, and Ventoy2Disk.exe cannot obtain the control right of the USB drive, so that the device cannot be listed. Delete or rename the \EFI folder on the VTOYEFI partition 2 of the Ventoy drive. Any way to disable UEFI booting capability from Ventoy and only leave legacy? Some Legacy BIOS has an access limitation and wont read a disk that exceeds the limitation. I would assert that, when Secure Boot is enabled, every single time an unsigned bootloader is loaded, a warning message should be displayed. Already have an account? Can't install Windows 7 ISO, no install media found ? ParagonMounter Sign in Maybe the image does not support x64 uefi . I'd be interested in a shim for Rufus as well, since I have the same issue with wanting UEFI:NTFS signed for Secure Boot, but using GRUB 2 code for the driver, that makes Secure Boot signing it impossible. In this case, only these distros that bootx64.efi was signed with MS's key can be booted.(e.g. If Ventoy was intended to be used from an internal hard disk, I would agree with you, but Ventoy is a USB-based multiboot solution and therefore the user must have physical access to the system, so it is the users responsibility to be careful about what he inserts into that USB port. . No bootfile found for UEFI! The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: tails-amd64-4.5.iso Legacy tested with VM It woks only with fallback graphic mode. @ventoy I can confirm this, using the exact same iso. try 1.0.09 beta1? The current release of Slax (slax-64bit-11.2.1.iso) fails to boot using UEFI64 using ventoy with the error message: Passware Kit Forensic , on Legacy mode booting successfully but on UEFI returns to Ventoy. That is just to make sure it has really written the whole Ventoy install onto the usb stick. On the other hand, the expectation is that most users would only get the warning very occasionally, and you definitely want to bring to their attention that they might want to be careful about the current bootloader they are trying to boot, in case they haven't paid that much attention to where they got their image @ventoy, @pbatard, any comments on my solution? Using Ventoy-1.0.08, ubuntudde-20.04-amd64-desktop.iso is still unable to boot under uefi. And IMO, anything that attempts to push the idea that, maybe, allowing silent boot of unsigned bootloaders is not that bad, is actually doing a major disservice to users, as it does weaken the security of their system and, if this is really what a user wants, they can and should disable Secure Boot. This iso seems to have some problem with UEFI. Because if I know you ever used Ventoy in a Secure Boot enabled environment, I can now run any malicious payload I want at the UEFI level, on your computer. when the user Secure Boots via MokManager - even when booting signed efi files of Ubuntu or Windows? Can I reformat the 1st (bigger) partition ? Can you add the exactly iso file size and test environment information? As Ventoy itself is not signed with Microsoft key, it uses Shim from Fedora (or, more precisely, from Super UEFIinSecureBoot Disk). From the booted OS, they are then free to do whatever they want to the system. Passware.Kit.Forensic.2017.1.1.Win.10-64bit.BootCD.iso - 350 MB Snail LInux , supports UEFI , booting successfully. Feedback is welcome If your tested hardware or image file is not listed here, please tell me and I will be glad to add it to the table here. That's actually very hard to do, and IMO is pointless in Ventoy case. Ventoy has added experimental support for IA32 UEFI since v1.0.30. The current Secure Boot implementation should be renamed from "Secure Boot support" to "Secure Boot circumvention/bypass", the documentation should state about its pros and cons, and Ventoy should probably ask to delete enrolled key (or at least include KeyTool, it's open-source). Reply. . Does the iso boot from s VM as a virtual DVD? Hope it would helps, @ventoy I still have this error on z580 with ventoy 1.0.16. I have this same problem. Already on GitHub? Getting the same error with Arch Linux. And, unfortunately, with Ventoy as it stands, this whole trust mechanism is indeed broken, because you can take an official Windows installation ISO, insert a super malicious UEFI bootloader (that performs a Windows installation while also installing malware) and, even if users have Secure Boot enabled (and added Ventoy in Mok manager), they will not be alerted at all that they are running a malicious bootloader, whereas this is the whole point of Secure Boot! to your account, Hello In Ventoy I had enabled Secure Boot and GPT. EndeavourOS_Atlantis_neo-21_5.iso boots OK using UEFI64 on Ventoy and grubfm. If everything is fine, I'll prepare the repo, prettify the code and write detailed compilation and usage instructions, as well as help @ventoy with integration. It does not contain efi boot files. It only causes problems. to your account, Hi ! legacy - ok I think it's ok as long as they don't break the secure boot policy. If anyone has Secure Boot enabled, there should be no scenario where an unsigned bootloader gets executed without at least a big red warning, even if the user indicated that they were okay with that. Does shim still needed in this case? The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: Please test this ISO file with VirtualMachine(e.g. Ventoy can detect GRUB inside ISO file, parse its configuration file and load its boot elements directly, with "linux" GRUB kernel loading command. I remember that @adrian15 tried to create a sets of fully trusted chainload chains to be used in Super GRUB2 Disk. Rik. ISO: GeckoLinux_STATIC_Plasma.x86_64-152.200719..iso (size: 1,316MB) . Format XFS in Linux: sudo mkfs -t xfs /dev/sdb1, It may be related to the motherboard USB 2.0/3.0 port. You signed in with another tab or window. I think it's OK. But, even as I don't actually support the idea that Secure Boot is useless if someone has physical access to the device (that was mostly Steve positing this as a means to justify that not being able to detect Secure Boot breaches on USB media isn't that big a deal), I do believe there currently still exist a bit too many ways to ensure that you can compromise a machine, if you have access to said machine. Is it possible to make a UEFI bootable arch USB? Yes, I already understood my mistake. Use UltraISO for example and open Minitool.iso 4. Then the process of reading your "TPM-secured" disk becomes as easy as: User awareness that their encrypted data was read: Nil. The MISO_EFI partition contains only 1 folder called "efi" and another folder in it called "boot" which contains a single file called "bootx64.efi.". Keeping Ventoy and ISO files updated can help avoid any future booting issues with Ventoy. Hiren does not have this so the tools will not work. https://nyancat.fandom.com/wiki/MEMZ_Nyan_Cat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mv6Cbew_y8&t=1m13s. can u fix now ? GRUB mode fixed it! Windows 10 32bit only support IA32 efi, your machine may be x86_64 uefi (amd64 uefi), so this distro can't boot and will show this message. That's an improvement, I guess? Well occasionally send you account related emails. Hello , Thank you very very much for your testings and reports. Can't say for others, but I made Super UEFIinSecureBoot Disk with that exact purpose: to bypass Secure Boot validation policy. Again, the major problem I see with this fine discussion is that everybody appears to be tiptoeing around the fact that some users have no clue what Secure Boot is intended for (only that, because it says "Secure" they don't want to turn it off), and, rather than trying to educate them about that, we're trying to find ways to keep them "feeling safe" when the choices they might make would leave their system anything but. Now, if Microsoft finally relinquished their abusive policy about not accepting GPLv3 code for Secure Boot signing and Ventoy was updated not to allow unsigned bootloaders when Secure Boot is enabled (i.e. Even debian is problematic with this laptop. Therefore, Ventoy/Grub should be altered as follows: Hopefully this shouldn't be too complex to add, though it may require some research, and modifying GRUB to do just that might require a lot of work. Optional custom shim protocol registration (not included in this build, creates issues). If I am using Ventoy and I went the trouble of enrolling it for Secure Boot, I don't expect it to suddenly flag any unsigned or UEFI bootloader or bootloader with a broken signature, as bootable in a Secure Boot enabled environment.